Powered by Invision Community. It is well-finished in the Hunter and other walnut stocked The receiver, trigger guard and trigger are aluminum alloy. cause for lament is the goofy notched recoil pad that makes aftermarket Nagging problems with soft parts remain. A few buddies that owned them put shooting tape on the fore-end to ensure the gun would not slip from their hands. A lot of new competitors start with a BT 99 and then some graduate to better guns as they more serious about the sport. Inside 40, which is where we should all be shooting ducks and geese, Ive never noticed any difference. Overall I really like it. You could buy a 3-inch version of that gun and it was available in a synthetic model, just like the SX4. The maxus is an improvment on the SX3, an already great gun. 562K views 5 years ago With the recent release of the Winchester SX4 semi-auto shotgun, many people wondering what the difference is between the SX4 and the SX3. Versa-Max has been improved to the point where it merits serious consideration Paying $1,800 and not getting that feature is a hard pill to swallow, and Im sure it made some hunters pass on the first iteration of the Maxus when it was introduced in 2009. Operating systemswhether gas- (the Maxus II runs on the same Power Drive system as the first Maxus) or inertia-drivenmost of the advancements have already been made. Thumbs Up and Thumbs Down on Autoloading Shotguns. extra barrels ($799) all combine to make the A400 series one that has caused If you want a 20 gauge, go with the silver. Sometimes pins on cheaper guns will wear out fast, and wont strike the shotshell primer deep enough to set off the charge. Not at all. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. Everyone had different buying motives and these are just my opinions. Posted By: BOBO the Clown. soft shooting gun and cycles 2 3/4, 3 & 3 1/2 all without any issues If anyone knows anything about this please help. Its nice to be able to rest your cheek on that pad, and know you are ready to shoot when the opportunity presents itself. JavaScript is disabled. But it also cushions the sting your shoulder feels when shooting magnum 3- or 3-inch duck loads by spreading the force over a larger area. Joe Genzel You cannot paste images directly. Only Franchis Affinity 3 and Berettas A300 Ultima rivaled the SX4, but both are 3-inch guns that cost about the same as the Winchester. A forum community dedicated to Shotgun owners and enthusiasts including the Remington, Beretta, and Mossberg shotguns brands. Its also a much sleeker gun than the original. Copyright 2013 by Randy Wakeman. That soft comb is fixed in place, and it does make recoil more manageable, Frampton says. The fore-end of the SX4 was redesigned so that shooters have a better grip on the gun in the unpleasant weather. Most waterfowlers hunt snow geese, or like the idea of hunting snow geese, so they want a gun that accepts a magazine extension. I have owned, and extensively hunted with, at least five Browning Golds. Outdoor Hub, LLC (d/b/a Carbon Media Group), 30800 Telegraph Rd, Suite 1921, Bingham Farms, MI 48025 USA. It is well-finished in the Hunter and other walnut stocked versions and is Browning's best autoloading shotgun. others that offer a clearly better-built product. The SX4 is every bit as functional as higher priced duck guns. You'll note that there are more thumbs-up models Heavy rib, heavy trigger and Any use of this content without express written consent is prohibited. There are some shotshells the gun wont like and wont speed load. While not This gun gave me little issues too. Since this is so very rarely The other three are all very good models. less together in 2010, the Vinci has proved to be one of the most innovative and loads right out of the box. The Evolution of Shotgun Coatings, From Blued Barrels to (Mostly) Impervious Firearm Finishes. I have the SX4 and my old man has the Browning. I bought mine for hunting in the field because it is light and seems to be a fine pheasant gun. I'd recommend it. This test has six categories where we rank the guns on a 1-10 scale. I have no problem at all with my forearm. You already know the SX3 and SX4 are similar guns. I like the Winchester sx4 and the Browning silver due to price. the market today, with the most non-gunsmithing user adjustments, the softest Although saying that browning didn't produce a . Im looking at a new autoloader for bird hunting and skeet shooting. The Super X4 replaced the X3 in 2019, retaining the light weight and trim lines of the X3 while adding englarged bolt handle, safety, trigger guard, and bolt release to make it easier to use in . Pasted as rich text. unmarred by progress and is over-priced. Come join the discussion about optics, hunting, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! The SX4 is lighter in weight and has a rounded receiver and the Silver is angled off. I saw many folks who had to hold the underside of the fore-end in the palm of their hand because of its shape. For those that own or have used the guns, which do you prefer and are there major differences? They are both gas guns, but the SX1 utilized a gas piston that traveled just far enough to set the bolt in motion and then relied on momentum to finish the process of ejecting a spent shotshell. The weak one year Beretta limited Remington's gas gun is a very soft shooter and is now available in a Sportsman felt like a proper bit of kit to be honest, good weight and wellbalanced , very smooth cycleing. This 26 inch barreled test gun is horribly nose-heavy and the 28 inch barrel versions will, naturally, be even worse. It is Browning's best series of autoloaders and several models are in the best value category. I have never actually shot the maxus, but I have only heard good stuff. You really can make a poor decision between the two. These opinions may change as I continue to shoot and experience more guns! The SX4 bolt has the same simple two-piece design as the SX3. FABARM XLR5 VELOCITY The SX2 more closely resembles the SX4. No I Didn't i went and shouldered the maxus and the SX3 and liked the feeling of the SX3 more but the features of the maxus. The maxus is extremely lightweight, some people love it, i honestly didnt like it. Theres never a feeding issue when you are shooting, but when loading and unloading the gun, it can take a few extra seconds to place the shotshell in the magazine or remove it. The SX4 is the most nose-heavy Active valve model shotgun I have ever reviewed. Apparently, Browning/Winchester has done away with any appearance of Belgium manufacture, for the barrel is stamped, "Made in Portugal by Browning Viana." I really did not understand how it could possibly fit any human being. The gun will also be widely available in models that are all-camo (Mossy Oak Shadow Grass Habitat and Break-Up Country), and the all-black Stalker, which comes with flush chokes, not the extended chokes you will find in every other model except the deer slug gun. The bolt reliably cycles, but it does take some force to pull back. I have an SX3 and it is a good gun but not great gun for range games. Browning supplies many of the same options in its A5 and Maxus II. That made the gun a little more difficult to swing than some of its competitors. The only performance advantage Ive seen in the field or at the clays course was when I needed to make a shot beyond 40 yards. trigger, extremely light weight and a better than average recoil pad. Just want some thoughts and opinions on the Winchester SX4 and Browning Maxus. recoil (despite a fine pad), incomprehensible choke tube system and high price combine Fair enough, the 20 bore sx3 does look like a purely rebadged fusion, Maxus all the way. Rubber would have been better, and finally, two gas cylinders. Thats why the Super X4 won the great buy award in our recent review on the best duck hunting shotguns. The updates are all ergonomic. Berettas A400 shotguns are well known for their recoil mitigation system, called Kick-Off. Putting a gun on paper often gives you the answer as to why you are missing birds. Banded Birds - Black Ducks - 6, Mallards 19 (3 Jack Miner) BW Teal - 2, Wood Ducks - 1, 1 Ross and 1 snow Goose (Both reward bands) , Canada Geese - 15 (2 neck collars), Morning . it has features you don't find very often: authentic walnut stock, decent The gun has never failed to cycle. Its a series of springs in the stock that softens the blow to your shoulder once the trigger is pulled and the force of the shotshell charge is sent backwards. I have done a LOT of research and narrowed my options down to the Browning Maxus and the Winchester SX3. It has slowed down when dirty, which lets me know its time for a cleaning. I have been looking for a new shotgun but don't know what to choose. Lines are molded into the butt stock and the recoil pad does not follow the toe line of the stock. The other changes are puzzling as well. I've been asked many, many times to give a brief thumbs Mainly for clays turkey and grose. The Winchester is very likely a better value but it depends how much you personally value materials, fit and finish. up or thumbs down verdict on several firearms. It had no problem gobbling them up. Nor the 12 bore SX3, the 20 bore SX3 does. Copyright 2017 by Randy Wakeman. There is a cut out on each side of the fore-end your thumb and fingers will naturally find. Never seen a 20 sx3 but would be surprised if browning allowed Winchester to use it? are difficult to fit, finishes impossible to match and horrifically over-priced years from Franchi and the ten years from Benelli. The latest in Winchester's gas gun series, the SX4 now comes in a throwback Woodland camo version that still blends in anywhere and recalls the days when hunters wore Army surplus gear to the blind. No magazine cap; just some funky little latch you pulled on to field strip the gun. Its miserable trigger breaks right at seven pounds, which is ridiculously heavy. a disaster, the new A5 is a very hard shotgun to love. I'm more a browning guy because they fit me well. The oversize bolt handle protrudes unnecessarily from the right side of the receiver. The fore end of the Maxus clips on, and the Maxus has a magazine cutoff. The other changes are puzzling as well. The inside of the barrel is chrome plated. I would not have any interest in a Franchi. We have them in stock now! Probably, but the A400 Xpolar is surely tempting albeit more money. It took a long time for Browning to replace the Auto-5 with a successful shotgun and I have gone through the previous attempts: the gas-operated B-2000 (a sales flop, but I really enjoy my 20 gauge), the B-80 (essentially a Beretta 302-1/2), the A500R nee A500 recoil operated disaster (initially recalled) and the A500G gas-operated version, which was offered only briefly. Welcome to /r/Shotguns, Press J to jump to the feed. 8/10. The gas system is almost the same except the Maxus is a bit heavier duty with an additional metal piece rather than polymer. 2 Reply Euphoric_Protection3 1 yr. ago Generally, the lighter the gun, the worse the recoil. After receiving a patent for his design, he sold it to the Winchester Repeating Arms Company later that year. It is an eyesore, but works as well as its predecessors. Anyway, here we go, the thumbs up autoloaders followed by the thumbs down Join our mailing list to receive the latest news and updates from our team.Don't worry, your information will not be shared. If I'm going to pay $1000 or up for a shotgun I don't want the forearm to be shaking. The only difference I can tell between them is mostly the price and a few small things like the trigger guard and slightly different internal reciever. additions problematic. Thanks, I have the SX4 Waterfowl in Max 5 (3" version). The gun's soft-shooting VersaPort gas system left the author unbruised and thoroughly charmed by Argentina's wingshooting. This particular gun has a Cerakote barrel and receiver coupled with Mossy Oak Shadow Grass Habitat camo on the stock and fore-end. TFL SOSA SCORECARD: HANDICAPS BASED ON PRICE: BROWNING MAXUS 2 WICKED WING: $2,099 (-7 HANDICAP), WINCHESTER SX4 HYBRID HUNTER: $1,029 (-3 HANDICAP), SX4: Hands down, the Winchester SX4 is one of the lightest recoiling shotguns. I find it to have a little more kick than the browning autos but is a little lighter. It cycled them all without issue. Skinny money roll out with the SX4, want to be a baller in the blind ain't no better answer than the Maxus 2 Wicked Wings. have heard reports the forends come loose , but what truth is in that I dont know ? the rear. Recreational and practical applications abound with these .22 caliber handguns. There is now a reversible, rectangular cross-bolt safety. Hands get cold all the time when you are hunting and if you have that little extra grip it may be the difference between killing a bird or missing it.. My Maxus is the 3 1/2 inch stalker model. MAXUS 2: This shotgun stands out to me. Most waterfowlers hunt snow geese, or like the idea of hunting snow geese, so they want a gun that accepts a magazine extension. 2s with a muzzle velocity of 1,550 fps and a charge weight of 1 1/8 ounces. current Browning autoloaders, it is one of the softest-shooting seven pound three years, but this is the best Remington autoloader to be introduced since 1963. This was rectified in later models by using a lighter, titanium alloy magazine tube. If you want to be competitive these days, your autoloader must have an oversized bolt handle, trigger guard, and loading port, because God forbid you pinch one of your little fingers where the shotshell lifter meets the magazine tube. There is also a carbon-fiber sporting model with 28- and 30-inch barrel options. . Browning has been using the speed loading function for decades (you will find it on the A5 line as well). The BXD BBs performed phenomenally at the range. I shot at a 30-inch target. Pigeon Watch Ltd. I'm leaning towards a gas operated gun versus inertia driven. The sx3's i have shot aref ine but they are a bit on the heavy side and a little harder to swing than other browning semis i've shot. The loading port also gets lethargic. We will never sell your information, for any reason. Vibes are high! Ive used an SX4 for my main duck gun the last two seasons and shot it on spring snow geese with a seven-round magazine extension affixed. Its also much easier to clean and has almost a 60 year track record of reliability. It took | The speed feed is only offered on 20 gauge models and it is invaluable to me. I thought it was odd-looking. All have been good performers, providing a couple of tweaks are made. 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