Just wanted to point out that you can limp wrist with both hands on the gun and if everything is stock like you said, and you truly believe it has only been fired once, I default to user error. Lord, make me fast and accurate. It appears that the safety plunger spring was laying sideways instead of inside the safety plunger. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. I bought a used (only shot one time) Gen 3 Glock 36. No reason to leave the plantation because the Timney would not work out in your Glock. Any update on this? Powered by Invision Community, failure to go into battery after installing Timney Trigger. One new winner* is announced every week! have you considered maybe tossing the Timney in the trash and going back to the trigger youve used for the past 11,000 rounds and using that? I am finding that especially when dry-firing, even when I am careful to let the slide "slam" shut, the slide hangs up right before lockup. You can post now and register later. Pics to come soon. Your load seems fine to me - adequate for a typical Glock 19 to operate well. Who knows. The tools. If this checks out 17 pounds is for 40 S&W. This is only going to be used at the range. I'm wondering if it could be a defective recoil spring? My brand new Glock 19 Gen4 does the exact thing. Like polishing amounts? first off, your slide internals are not installed correctly, the metal should be showing on your depressor plunger and not the rubber and spring and it looks like your missing a pin? Haha. ago I'm not missing a pin I just put the wrong one in, and that's honestly what I thought, I'll try to fix it and see if it helps 1 Reply Is it safe to shoot? that should fix it for sure, I assume you are using the "U" shaped washer as well ? Display as a link instead, It was a good deal, and now I know why. I pulled out my Timney a month or two ago and went back to Apex. Feel the mouth of the case for burrs, etc.. This isn't an issue when practicing slow fire but rapid fire would be a problem. If I let It slam shut there is no problem. That's an easy way to figure out if you're just limp wristing or if it's a mechanical issue. The simple thing seems to be that something did not go back together right. The slide goes forward just fine if he doesn't hold back the trigger but when he holds back the trigger, the slide won't go fully forward. Pull out a round that chokes the pistol in the manner you are describing. If it were me I would use a calipers to take some measurements of your OEM slide rail slots from front to back versus your new Suarez slide front to back,I suspect you will discover differences. Comedian and Student of Life | Ep 029 JP Sears, [ARCHIVED THREAD] - Glock 19 w/ LWD threaded bbl not going into battery with trigger depressed *Fixed*. *********************************************, [URL]https://membership.nrahq.org/forms/signup.asp?campaignid=XI026751. I must thank everyone for the replies, you all are the best. Based on your answers, I would suggest (2) things. By Comedian and Student of Life | Ep 029 JP Sears, [ARCHIVED THREAD] - Looking for help. One mag in particular was the worst. Found the culprit. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Come join the discussion about optics, holsters, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! Haha). A forum community dedicated to Glock firearm owners and enthusiasts. These both assume a stock Glock so YMMV.-----I had a stock G19 that was failing to go into battery during live fire. Wish I could look at it directly. Just file a little, test, file a little till it isnt happening any more? moved the trigger spring up on the trigger bar. 17s and a 26 but done here, but the methods should be the same on the 20. What does the extractor look like? In the end, you will want to have at least 2/3 to 3/4 of the sear face/firing pin engagement to be safe. Thank you for that great info! If so, look for interference or binding during feeding. The slide isn't meant to be let down easy during normal use. The first suggestion comes directly from the troubleshooting section of the Armorer's manual. On a side note, this gun did not want to feed my semiwadcutters at all, and also pinched my pinky a lot. The issue is the 19 will not go into battery when I pull the slide back. 3 Pull the slide back fully, then slowly ride the slide back into battery position, keeping the trigger depressed the whole time. I checked this (recoil spring drops a little) on my Glock. What ammo? I ordered a pierce +0 grip extension that should take care of the pinch and I'll only use round nose in it from now on. The plunger spring somehow got turned sideways. I noticed this after a cleaning. If the firing pin did not drop then chances are that is the issue. Display as a link instead, I just pulled the firing pin safety and sure enough the spring had gotten tweeked when I reassembled it. Yes, the Glock has been altered from stock. Have you tried shooting it? You can get calipers from Harbor freight, they are not the best but have a large read out display and I find them as accurate as Frankfort Arsenal digital calipers,you will use them for many gun related projects. I have not stripped the slide but I'm sure I could figure it out if the issue is there. I recall him going into the slide then saying "wait, I don't have to mess with this." My Glock 21SF threaded barrel sucked for the first 100-200 rounds fired, but once it wore in it has been very good. Grab the slide by the serrations and ram the web of your shooting hand into the cradle of the frame as hard as you can until it unjams. Your load seems fine to me - adequate for a typical Glock 19 to operate well. Shoot the crap out of it. Thanks for the suggestion. I have 3 of them and two of the three needed extensive adjustments to the connector and trigger bar cross bar to reset properly and consistently drop the striker. In using it, ive experienced several failure to fires. I put it back with the stock parts, and the issue continues. Also do you have another 17 handy? When I say it won't go back into battery I mean when I hand cycle the slide and let it down easy. Win A Colt 1911 Tomb Of The Unknown Soldier 45acp, Buy, sell, and trade in the classified section, Chat with Local gun shops, ranges, trainers & other businesses, View up to date on firearm-related events. UPDATE! Maybe ne messed something up in the slide. Could be too long and hitting the extractor bar/spring thingy and not letting the extractor get up over the case rim. Not throwing shade on your loads just trying to eliminate a variable. That is like test driving your car with the engine off then complaining of poor acceleration. Make sure your slide lock spring is all the way flush with the inside channel. Just curious as to what Glock said. With the slide off, there was visible movement in the timney part when i manipulated the trigger. The problem is, that when I keep the trigger depressed, the gun sometimes hesitates when returning to battery about 1/4" from seating. Back up a step that you took, and test,.. ie,.. swap the Timney back out. Usually a problem in the op rod channel or a rail problem. The hit on the primer was a solid hit, dead center on the .45 case that blew out. AR15.Com reserves the right to overwrite or replace any affiliate, commercial, or monetizable links, posted by users, with our own. I'm not sure if you have the stock FPS spring or not. The lead tech at Suarez International was not only less helpful, but a total jerk about it. Ive had to bump up my striker spring to get their a few boxes of really old PMC primers that came my way. It seems like it gets caught on something when you hold the trigger back, like to test the reset, and then when you release the trigger the slide eases forward on its own. I agree with comments a few others have already made that Timney triggers are not necessarily a simple drop in. Some of it might be the tolerance of your frame itself. I've been running Glock pistols since they came out with the G21 in .45acp over 30 years ago, that's when I sold my Colt 1911 and never looked back. Great info! I am doing my Armorers class this coming week and planned to bring up the question. It has failed to return fully to battery once but every other time, it's a brief hesitation then it snaps into battery. Maybe he did something to the slide? What you describe sounds exactly like what's happening. Have you tried the field test for the RSA? Don't leave 10mm brass, someone here will be willing to pay cash for them. January 3, 2004 in Glock. Just got my G26 back from Cold Bore Customs and did a quick trigger job, installed a smooth trigger and an extended slide release. This is also why I ended up trying the Timney. Welcome to Glocks, Let me start by saying that I know I bought the wrong aftermarket slide. Your previous content has been restored. I bought a Suarez milled RMR cut slide for my Glock 19 Gen 3 and if I pin the trigger after a shot, it almost never goes back into battery, which makes sense, but sometimes when I shoot correctly and don't pin the trigger it still doesn't go back into battery. I don't know if that is the problem, but thank you for trying to help. Any Glock armour out there that can give me some advice? It will keep the gun just out of battery when reversed. If not HELP PLEASE! If you see light off-center strikes it may well be. Or at least use it as a starting point to tweak in a different direction than a Timney??? I'm assuming the recoil spring isn't the issue since it's only been fired one time. JavaScript is disabled. Knock on wood but I think I may have figured it out with help from many of your suggestions. If he lets go of the trigger at that point, the slide goes forward completely. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Im a little ahead of you on this path. I can't have more than 1500-2000 rounds through this pistol. I had the luxury of multiple Glocks to fall back on, though. Then run it like you sole it and it will work fine. I am making sure not to ease it forward. Your link has been automatically embedded. sounds to me like the Timney is your problem, not the Glock. No lube should be needed on RSA. The slide goes into battery, but the primer hits look off. I only shoot factory ammo. Matter of fact, I have a couple of triggers from Charlie Vanek that he used a Lone Wolf connector in that he had tuned up. A couple weeks ago I installed a Timney Trigger with the red return spring. Does anyone have any suggestions? Or vice down the slide (use wood or thick cardboard not a bare vice or you'll mess up the slide) and push the frame forward toward the muzzle as hard as you can. Building a V2 soon. Im curious to see what the hype is about but getting rid of my Glocks isnt a consideration. Remove as little material as necessary while maintaining the proper angle on it (sear face). I'm kinda an apartment dweller with more Barbie dolls than tools (they are my daughters. We also have Glock related articles like Tools Used . Interesting. Clear editor. I'm not new to glocks and have done detailed strips before so I don't think it is the recoil spring not seated correctly. with the gun completely empty and the factory connector installed I can still get it to FTRTB by holding it vertically and riding the slide home with the trigger depressed. Come join the discussion about optics, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, troubleshooting, accessories, classifieds, and more! February 21, 2022 in Glock. Here's how you can test if it's a recoil spring issue: 1 With the pistol empty, pull the trigger, and keep the trigger depressed. AR15.COM is the world's largest firearm community and is a gathering place for firearm enthusiasts of all types. I'm wondering if cerakote got in the extractor channel and gummed things up. I've shot pistols for a while and also have a g17. I'm going to look in to some of your suggestions and, if all else fails, put another few hundred rounds through it and see if it persists. Everything seemed fine at a field strip level just to oil. Have you tried it with the factory barrel? It had 2056 through it. Agree with Danzig but I actually suspect it may have more to do with the slide, if your Suarez slide has been caracoated or duracoated there is the possibility of some build up in the slide rail slots or on the bottom of the slide in the area where the connector rides causing your problem. Ill be glad when theyre done and I can go back to the 4.0 lb spring. this is normal for a glock as they are not designed to have the slide closed slowly like this. I knew it was wrong cause I have a factory G17 gen 3. Another dumb question is are you intimately familiar with taking the gun part and putting it back together? Oh, it was like filing. Out of a 10 round mag, it averaged 2 or 3 times. I only switched because my Glock trigger could only set off certain primers due to the lightness of the springs I needed to get it to work. Nice pull and crisp break. When I pull it all the way back and then release, the slide locks just fine. With Timney I can set off small rifle that I could not with my Glock trigger. When I press the slide release it loads just fine. Or has it been an issue since purchase? I had a problem like that in my G34 when I was shooting it. thats one of my fears. I stripped the entire frame and can't seem to find the issue. "first thing i would check is your connector tension, if there is too much tension it will restrict slide movement". If you can get it to be smooth with a clean and consistent break, the pull will still be 5 to 5.5 pounds. Outdoor Hub, LLC (d/b/a Carbon Media Group), 30800 Telegraph Rd, Suite 1921, Bingham Farms, MI 48025 USA. I have just installed an Agency arms trigger & trigger bar in the gun. Display as a link instead, I have used them in several Glocks and found them to give a light pull while also giving a crisper break and feel. It now passes the recoil spring test. Ive tried swapping the extensions to different mag bodies for what its worth and the result is the same. JavaScript is disabled. It does once I release (reset) the trigger. Upload or insert images from URL. Sign up for the ARFCOM weekly newsletter and be entered to win a free ARFCOM membership. I agree, but Ive pretty much ruled out the recoil spring, and it seems crazy that four extensions and springs from henning and Dawson would all have the same malfunction. Advise requested, a question about requiring the FEDERAL 4473 form, SB 1 and SB 858 Committee vote Friday at 9 AM, Old Racist Gun Laws Enter Modern-Day Legal Battles, New Gun Giveaway! It only hangs up if I hold the trigger back as if shooting off the reset. I will look into buying some calipers. Break it in!!! I dont get it, youve been shooting a G34 for quite some time, then you cant get a Timney trigger to work so youre ready to try a Sig? From personal experience I recommend a factory connector. I pulled out my Timney a month or two ago and went back to Apex. Im a little ahead of you on this path. I may have to get out a Glock and take a look. FYI it's not the recoil spring. Your link has been automatically embedded. This did the trick. It won't load a round. It does once I release(reset) the trigger. When I got the first one for my 34.4, I had multiple issues that I couldn't resolve, so I got my backup 34.4 dropped that same trigger in and it ran perfectly first time in. I will let everyone know what I find out. -Thomas Jefferson, quoting Cesare Beccaria, This is a decent video to check out to double check. Sorry about that. Thank you! I have noticed that my G26 spring has been failing the recoil spring test.as of late. no Go on the back plate do not have one.. Upload or insert images from URL. LW barrels are drop in, but they really are more of forced fit. 2. the Trigger spring may not have been re-installed properly causing the sear to hang when the slide tries to return to battery I just noticed that in my previous post that the word 'Spring' sprung out of the post. I have to say that with a little tuning my Timney triggers run like no other Glock trigger I have owned and they are really a game changer for Glock pistols if you look closely at how they function! If I sling shot the slide it works fine but I can't remember any of my other Glocks having problems getting them to go back into battery while riding the slide(when dry firing). I think the increased slide weight is preventing the rsa from becoming fully compressed during the recoil cycle using the handloads. Eject it. Timney should be a little more straightforward with their instructions. The last thing you want is to damage it so it's inoperable. Sometimes you just need to oil them and rack the slide a few hundred or thousand times to break it in. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. I bought the G19 new, and ive never torn the slide down. Check for it. I knew what it felt like from a second 17 I own, so I knew that was the route I wanted to go. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. I am shooting my handloads right now it is 124 but will go back to 115 once this batch runs out. My current set-up is a glockstore tungsten guide rod w/ 13lb spring, TTI Grand Master spring and connector kit, and SRO on a forward controls design plate. Is this RSA going to $hit already? But about 1-2 rounds out of 100 it wouldnt quite go in to battery and Id need to tap the back of the slide slightly to seat it (started off at like 3 in 5 rounds). Have you tried a different firing pin spring? I run Zev guide rods and adapter rings on my Gen4 17 and 21, along with ISMI recoil springs that are 15lb rated. since it started when you changed the connector, it sounds like its an assembly issue. I plan on winning the lottery soon so I'll have much more free time in the future. Sign up for the ARFCOM weekly newsletter and be entered to win a free ARFCOM membership. I'm pretty sure it actually WAS only fired once before because the copper grease was still very apparent when I field stripped it. The only reason I switched to be honest, especially with primer scarcity. Is this how it supposed to function? It did shoot fine. Just a thought. Upload or insert images from URL. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. When it completely hangs I can release the trigger part way and it will snap into battery. Do you have a Glock Armorer orange endplate that allows you to see the striker trigger bar engagement?. Thoughts on city living: If I'm at the dump and worried about all the rats, I don't think about how much ammo it takes to shoot them all, I just leave the dump. Buy some higher power factor ammo for the next (200) rounds. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. I have never really seen the need for an "armorer" when working with my Glocks. Can also try downloading the magazine by one round. Just got my slide back from being milled for dp pro and does not go into battery every time. Glock 36's historically dislike certain ammo's, you just need to find the ammo it likes. Lots of creep, but that is by design. BTW, the Cold Bore work is really nice! Give your new G19 some good lube on the rails, tabs and the barrel before shooting it again. Riding the slide is not recommended so not letting the slide run forward untouched should make it OK, IMO. If you aren't getting drag marks on the underneath side of the slide from it, I would leave it be, other than giving it and the bar itself a good polishing. You are using an out of date browser. Does the gun run OK or is it failing to go into battery during live fire? May be the recoil spring not being in the right seat position. Never an issue with limp wristing so far. Just to make sure that it wasn't something trigger related I threw the old serrated trigger assembly back in and it does the same thing so I put the new smooth one back in. Glad you got it fixed. Im planning on a press as my next significant purchase. Here's how you can test if it's a recoil spring issue: 1 With the pistol empty, pull the trigger, and keep the trigger depressed. My participation level isnt at the point where a dedicated backup gun makes sense so i dont have another gen 5 to compare, this might be the thing that gets me to try a sig though. To check the recoil spring for wear I was told to remove the magazine and empty the gun. I like the idea of using a second gun to diagnose. A couple thought on the trigger- if you work on the sear engagement, proceed with caution. Ive played with the trigger a good bit and its still a glock trigger. 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